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#41 Oracid

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Posté 07 avril 2019 - 10:29

C'est le plus petit char grimpeur que tu as construit ?

En réalité, je descend à 53cm, mais la démo n'est pas géniale.
Je pense qu'en faisant une conception plus fine on devrait arriver à un char de 50cm.

Mais ça, c'est pour battre un record, dans une réalisation pratique, 60cm me parait raisonnable.
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#42 VIGUIEG

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Posté 02 novembre 2023 - 10:10

Quelle est la largeur du char ? Je pense que cela doit influencer sa stabilité notamment si les obstacles sont irréguliers ( plus haut à droite que à gauche?)

 

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Posté 02 novembre 2023 - 06:24

La largeur est de 34cm.

Je ne sais pas s'il y a un ratio longueur/largeur pour les chars. Peut-être pourrais-tu t'inspirer des schémas des chars militaires.

Je pense que le problème est le couple nécessaire à la rotation. Le ratio longueur/largeur doit avoir une influence sur ce couple, mais à notre échelle, je ne suis pas certain que ce soit très important.

Malheureusement, je n'ai pas la compétence pour faire ce calcul.



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Posté 03 novembre 2023 - 08:34

Merci.



#45 PeterC

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Posté 01 mars 2024 - 03:56

Hello again and thank you for this. I would like to build this robot but cannot identify all the parts with the three images at the end of the video. I will be using terms used by Lego on their Shop > Pick and Build > Pick a Brick search engine.

Image 1:

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In Image 1, there are 2 pieces (A) that look like "1/2 bush"es but with round instead of cross shaped holes. I have been unable to find these on the Lego website. Also, what kind of a band is connecting these 2 parts? There is also a "beam" ( B) hidden in the frame that I can't see clearly.

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You have more pieces (A) in Image 2 which resemble the 2 in Image 1 (A). Are these the same or not? Between the wheels, there's a part ( B) which I can't make out. Also, 2 more pieces in the frame © look like "bush"es but I can't be sure.

Image 3:

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Image 3 shows the back part of the frame. I cannot identify the round part (A) here.

Image 4:

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Image 4 shows a armature with wheels which are hard to make out both the assembly connecting the wheels and the connection to the frame.

If you could show the parts I mentioned, the removed assembly from Image 4 without the wheels and also a top view of the frame without the tracks, I would appreciate it very much. Thank you.


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#46 Oracid

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Posté 01 mars 2024 - 08:22

Welcome here.

 

It is better to buy the Lego parts in  BrickLink - Buy and sell LEGO Parts, Sets and Minifigures   instead of Lego shop.

 

Here are the links for the parts you ask.

 

Image 1 :

 Technic, Liftarm, Modified Bent Thick 1 x 7 (4 - 4) : Part 32348 | BrickLink

 Wheel 11mm D. x 8mm with Center Groove : Part 42610 | BrickLink

 

Image 2 :

 Wheel 18mm D. x 8mm with Fake Bolts and Shallow Spokes : Part 56902 | BrickLink

 Technic Wedge Belt Wheel (Pulley) : Part 4185 | BrickLink

 Technic Bush : Part 3713 | BrickLink

 Tire Technic Wedge Belt Wheel : Part 2815 | BrickLink

 

Image 3 :

 Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges and Center Pin Hole : Part 87082 | BrickLink

 

Image 4 :

I'll come back soon with the answer.



#47 PeterC

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Posté 01 mars 2024 - 09:00

Sorry, Image 2 wasn't exactly clear. For item 2B, I was asking about the piece BETWEEN the 2 wheels, I think it's the same as 2C but not sure. Also, are you saying that the belt between the 2 wheels in Image 1 are the Tire Technic Wedge Belt Wheels? Thanks again.



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Posté 01 mars 2024 - 02:55

Please, always give the references.

 

- Sorry the part A in image 2 are 42610 not 56902.

- No, the belt 2815 goes only with the wheel 4185.

- yes, in image 2, between  the 2 wheels 4185, there is 2 bushes 3713.

 

 

Here is the trolley with his arm. If you don't find the references of parts on Bricklink, please ask.

 

Please click on me.

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#49 PeterC

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Posté 01 mars 2024 - 09:00

Two more things, if I may:

 

Images 5 & 6: Image 5.png Image 6.png

I don't see any connections between the beam (5A) and the upper beams of the frame or the beams at 6A. I can only assume that they are there and I don't see them.

 

Also, of the 2 wheels 42610 in Image 1 are not connected by the belt 2815, what are you using?

 

Thanks again.



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Posté 02 mars 2024 - 04:44

One more thing: do you know how many tread pieces were used?



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Posté 02 mars 2024 - 07:49

One more thing: do you know how many tread pieces were used?

The 42610 wheels are very cheap. You need about 35, but you can buy 100.

 

Here is an image with some details.

 

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Don't hesitate to ask.



#52 PeterC

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Posté 02 mars 2024 - 08:28

My apologies: I was asking about the count of piece 3873 and also the connections between part 32278 and the 2 32525 parts in Image 6.



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Posté 02 mars 2024 - 02:16

You need about :

- carefull, it is not 3873 but 57518 x 250

- 32278 x 50

- 32525 x 50

 

If you want, you can talk about you in the presentation section. Et si vous vous présentiez? - Robot Maker (robot-maker.com)



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Posté 03 mars 2024 - 04:16

How are part 32278 and the 2 32525 parts in Image 6 connected together?



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Posté 03 mars 2024 - 07:43

How are part 32278 and the 2 32525 parts in Image 6 connected together?

With pins ! 

 

Here are all the pins : BrickLink Reference Catalog - Parts - Category Technic, Pin

But, the most important pins are 2780, 6558, 3673, 32556. You can buy 500 of each.

 

Are you very beginner in Lego ? 



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Posté 03 mars 2024 - 09:44

The 2 wheels (42610) in Image 1A are connected by a yellow band. What is that?



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Posté 04 mars 2024 - 07:45

The 2 wheels (42610) in Image 1A are connected by a yellow band. What is that?

It is a rubber band. You can see it working in the video at 2'05".

The trolley has too a rubber from his wheels 42610 to a pin on the chassis. You can see it at the beginning of the video.



#58 PeterC

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Posté 05 mars 2024 - 02:06

OK, all I think I need now is a top-down picture of the whole thing without the tracks on.



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Posté 05 mars 2024 - 08:28

Click on me.

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Click on me.

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#60 PeterC

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Posté 05 mars 2024 - 08:56

Perfect. What motors and remote control parts are you using?






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